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Super sensational therapy services I am an OT, Autistic and Autism Mumma. These are my musings on all things that support well being, autonomy and neurodivergence.

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24/07/2026
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17/07/2026

In my experience PDA doesn't always show up as obvious avoidance. This post is for parents who have an identified PDA child.

Most literature describes two ways of looking at PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance or Pervasive Drive for Autonomy), which can be distinguished by the way avoidance behaviours are expressed; an external and an internal presentation.

You might observe demand avoidance that shows up as...

🧡 A loud and clear "NO"!
PDA kids might say "No" or "I don't want to". Or they might communicate this through using other sounds or body language through growling, hissing, yelling, screaming, and fighting their way out of expectations.

It can also show up as...

🧡 A silent "no".
You might observe kids ignoring others, pretending not to hear, changing the subject, playing a character, acting silly, going quiet or mute, withdrawing, running away, hiding, or flighting their way out of expectations.

Both of these presentations have a negative effect on other people and are therefore picked up sooner or later.

But what if I told you that there is a third way it exists but you can't see it on the outside? This is very different and actually shows up as...

🧡 A "YES! Of course! I'll do whatever you tell me to do and more!".

These kids are often seen as the "good girl or boy". They are observed to be compliant, rule followers, overly caring, hard-working and perfectionistic. They will say sorry for things they didn't do. Inside their body screams NO and they feel incredibly anxious when they perceive a demand. These kids fawn their way out of expectations. And because it only costs them, and not other people, it rarely gets picked up.

But this seems like such a contradiction!
They are needing autonomy and yet, they put other people first?

Yep.

This was me.

As a child I did as I was told. Always.

I loved learning at school. My grades were mostly 8s, 9s or 10s (grades in NL go from 1-10). The teachers loved me. I was social and had friends. I didn't resist imposed demands. I did exactly what society expected of me. And more.

I completely adjusted myself to be what other people needed me to be. I did this so I would be liked. So I would never be considered 'less than'. So I wouldn't receive any criticism or judgment. So I would be equal. So I would never experience any power imbalance. Because that felt the most threatening to my autonomy.

Being perfect was also my way of equalising. It compensated for all those things I couldn't do...like I wet the bed until I was 8 or so. I felt so much shame about this. I struggled with food and had severe difficulties with sleep. I knew I was different, struggling with things other kids didn't seem impacted by. I was overwhelmed a lot. Cried often. I felt out of control of myself. And I needed to balance things. Fawning was the safest way for me to do this.

PDA is a survival drive for autonomy and equality that protects our highly sensitive bodies and minds that override basic needs.

Sometimes the safest way a PDA child knows how to protect themselves isn't by saying "no"—it's by becoming everything everyone else wants them to be.

In response to all the comments here is a quick summary and important note to avoid confusion about what I see as PDA and what my post is about:

All PDA kids have a similar internal experience; they feel threatened by a loss of autonomy and equality and protecting their autonomy overrides basic needs, such as toileting, hygiene, safety, eating and sleeping. As a result PDA kids struggle with many daily life demands.
Kids' survival responses to the loss of autonomy can show up in three different ways on the outside; Fight, flight/freeze and fawn. Not all fawning kids are PDA. However, some PDA kids can fawn and still be PDA underneath the "good girl behaviour". All PDA kids will have some struggles with basic needs to a point the parent thought about seeking medical help. If you didn't have struggles in these areas to that level, you probably aren't PDA. Fawning also can be an expression of RSD which often goes hand in hand with other Neurodivergent profiles, such as ADHD and Autism.

Please see the comments for more context about my life as a PDAer for people who are confused about how fawning relates to some experiences as a PDA child.

05/03/2026

Supporting PDA kids is complex.
Sometimes for safety reasons we must try to redirect the child or remove triggers and obstacles.

If our compassion is too brief it will feel like a demand, because the pda child feels us trying to move them forward before their nervous system is ready.

Sometimes that means not saying anything.

Most of the time that means a whole lot of self compassion and compassion for our kids with no agenda.

It takes a lot of practice and recognising where our own system is at.

If you are in a constant state of functional freeze, burnout or Fight or flight after long periods of your child’s nervous system being in these places finding compassion will be hard, so too just being present, because your own nervous system will not feel safe in their big nervous system moments.

The shift begins when we start prioritising understanding our own triggers and working towards supporting our own nervous system.

24/12/2025

Havening is a tool I learnt from working with a family therapist.

It’s quick, easy and portable. Requires no equipment. Requires some repetition if your nervous system is already in large stress response.

It’s also an effective bedtime or middle of the night settling routine.

I have been able to introduce it to my kids by modeling it on me first. My kids seeing and feeling me in a more regulated way, created a place where the were willing to give it a go. I was then able to gently suggest to my PDA’r in a moment of distress that we try it, and he was able to feel for himself the settled feeling. He will now ask for it at other times of distress.
We started with just the shoulder rubs as face was too ticklish for him, and called them kitty cat pats.

I hope this helps with any overwhelm today as you move through your Christmas Day.

24/10/2025

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