01/06/2026
Question 4.11 Can those who have discerned the thirty-two parts of the body see them in someone else, with their eyes open?
Answer 4.11 It depends. Beginners can with their eyes open see only the external parts. They can see the internal parts only with their vipassanā knowledge eyes. If you want to know this scientifically, please try to see it yourself with your vipassanā knowledge.
A Mahāthera, however, may, because of previous practice, be able to see another’s skeleton with his eyes open, like the Venerable Mahā-Tissa, who was an expert in skeleton meditation. He always practised internal skeleton meditation as repulsiveness up to the first jhāna, and then vipassanā.
He discerned mentality-materiality, their causes, and nature of impermanence, suffering, and non-self. This was his usual practice. One day he went for alms (pinapāta), from Anuradhapura to Mahāgāma village. On the way, he met a woman who tried to attract his attention with loud laughter.
When he heard the sound, he looked her way, saw only her teeth, and then used them for skeleton meditation. Because of his previous constant practice he saw her as a skeleton, and not as a woman. He saw only a skeleton. Then he concentrated on his own skeleton, attained the first jhāna, and practised vipassanā quickly.
He attained the Arahant Path standing in the road. The woman had quarrelled with her husband, and had left home to go to her parents’ house. Her husband followed her, and also met Mahā Tissa Mahāthera. He asked him, ‘Bhante, did you see a woman go this way?’
The Mahāthera answered, ‘Oh, lay-supporter (dāyaka), I saw neither man nor woman, I saw only a skeleton going this way.’ This story is mentioned in the Visuddhi·Magga in the ‘Morality Chapter’. This is an example of how someone who has, like Mahā Tissa Mahāthera, practised skeleton meditation thoroughly may be able to see another’s skeleton with his eyes open.
HOW YOU DISCERN MENTALITY
INTRODUCTION
In our last talk, we discussed how to develop four-elements meditation, and also how to analyse the particles of materiality called ‘rūpa-kalāpas’. In this talk, we shall discuss briefly about how to discern mentality (nāma·kammatthāna), which is the next stage in vipassanā meditation.
Let me begin by explaining briefly the basic facts of the mind necessary to understand the discernment of mentality. As is explained in the Abhidhamma, the mind consists of a consciousness (citta) that knows its object, and associated mental factors (cetasika) that arise with that consciousness.
There are fifty-two such associated mental factors, for example: contact (phassa), feeling (vedanā), perception (saññā), volition (cetanā), one-pointedness (ek·aggatā), life faculty (jīvit·indriya), and attention (manasikāra).
There are a total of eighty-nine types of consciousness, and they can be classified according to whether they are wholesome, unwholesome, or indeterminate, or according to their sphere of existence, the sensual sphere (kām·āvacara), fine-material sphere (rūp·āvacara), immaterial sphere (arūp·āvacara), or according to whether they are mundane (lokiya) or supramundane (lokuttarā).
We may, however, speak of just two basic types of consciousness:
1) The consciousness of the mental process (citta·vīthi).
2) The ‘process-separate’ (vīthi·mutta) consciousness outside the mental process: at rebirth and death, and of the bhavanga.There are six types of mental process. The first five are the eye door-, ear door-, nose door-, tongue door-, and body-door processes, whose respective objects are visible forms, sounds, smells, tastes, and tangibles.
They are together called the ‘five-door process’ (pañca·dvāra vīthi). The sixth type of process has all objects as its objects, and is called the ‘mind-door process’ (mano·dvāra·vīthi). Each mental process comprises a series of different types of consciousness. The consciousnesses in any one mental process occur according to the natural law of consciousness (citta·niyāma).
If you want to discern mentality, you must see them as they occur in the order of that natural law. To do so, you must first have developed concentration with either ān·āpāna·sati (mindfulness-of-breathing), another samatha meditation subject, or four-elements meditation. A pure-vipassanā-vehicle yogi must also have finished the discernment of materiality (rūpa·kammatthāna), before he starts on discernment of mentality (nāma·kammatthāna).
A samatha-vehicle yogi, however, can choose: he can first discern materiality, or first discern the mentality of the jhānas he has attained (fine-material/immaterial mentality). Although to discern sensual realm mentality, he too needs first to have finished the discernment of materiality.