08/11/2020
Pancreatic Cancer Ablation using IRE-Nanoknife continues to tackle complex areas that have been left untreated for years because of their inaccessible location.
These Three complex Pancreatic nanoknife/IRE cases are shown below.
Left-Pancreatic retroperitoneal tumor extension 5cm
Center-treatment around celiac axis
Right-treatment inter aorto-caval lymph nodes.
Below is an editorial I wrote about the NanoKnife Surgery Warriors site and the state of Pancreatic ablation. Obviously it heavily reflects my opinion.
Editorial: NSW- Where we've been and where we and the Nanoknife are going in 2020's
Robert B. Donoway,MD,FACS
The original intention of this site was to provide individuals undergoing pancreatic IRE nanoknife ablation a place for warriors and caretakers alike to ask questions, share experiences and learn as much as about the procedure including the risks before deciding it was for them or not. The sites founder,
David Shell had in fact undergone the pancreatic Nanoknife. It was his positive experience with the procedure and his youthful spirit and optimism while down playing the minor issues that every treatment has, that led many who found the site to seek the newly emerging option for patients with advanced stage pancreatic cancer. For those new to the site it is worth taking the time to read all the posts back to 2015. At that time there were very few nanoknife practitioners and centers in the US and EU. Occasionally there were "subtle" disagreements among members, who acting as cheerleaders for their home teams, let things get out of control. Clearly most have felt they were being offered this new life extending treatment by the best wherever that was. Not everyone's life was extended and you can read those posts preserved for review. There has never been any aim to hide any aspect about pancreatic IRE and the risks and outcomes as they are published and included among the posts.
David and I spoke often about the procedure and how remarkable it was in stablizing his disease before it progressed. Even on his worst days he always had a upbeat attitude about the procedure because he knew there were no guarantees. He was very proud of the site and how it morphed into a major source of information challenging any professional site. Nevertheless, he was concerned about the occasional misinformation that got passed on by some who felt they were "nanoknife diplomats without papers." It was during one of those sessions after discussing his case that he invited me to become the "resident nanoknife authority" who could post the latest science, answer concerning questions and occasionally referee if needed. He understood the importance of honesty and understanding there are two sides to every debate and he wanted in a disease so marred by negative that he wanted "his" site to be a force for good, pushing the positive as he recognized that so many patients went to undergo the treatment as a result. He also saw that afterward so many were left out on their own to fend for themselves. It was around these issues that we briefly discussed how we might expand the spectrum of the Nanoknife Warrior Site to engage more people at all educational levels as well as from around the world. The NSW has grown to be recognized as the largest international community of IRE warriors and their caretakers. It has always been and will remain a major source for communication and sharing as well as an open forum for discussion. It will continue to maintain decorum and shy away from name calling and slander as most with this disease recognize no two courses are the same and everyone's risks are different and come with the territory. We recognize that anger is a big part of this disease especially after resection has been taken off the table. Some have been asked to leave because of either their behavior or for violating the agreed rules. Please remember that "Facebook Medical Degrees" are revocable; so please offer and accept advice in the magnanimous fashion it is offered and without trying to create a pontification platform. This is meant to be the site to provide the input to allow those seriously needing information to make life decisions. As in every aspect of cancer care there will be occasions to want to discuss unpleasant events and circumstances related to treatment. This is encouraged but it is requested that you simply leave the names of individuals you're upset at out of your posts. I have witnessed in another pancreatic cancer support group where members voicing encouragement of of another's misinformation led to disastrous results. No one wants that.
It is my hope that you will take away ideas from the Interesting cases to discuss with your home oncology teams. These cases are aimed at stressing that the end of the "standard of care" does not need to be the end. Respected experts are often wrong but their longstanding bias often prevents them from seeing things in a more open fashion. In that situation you may be forced into the position of having to decide on what is more important "your life" or the importance of maintaining the "Professors respect." My advice is always choose "Life!" So to minimize the tension that might be created when you broach these "out of the box" topics I have where possible posted supporting articles so that you can cutoff the common argument that there's "No Data." Almost everything presented has a peer reviewed citation and I want you well armed when you talk to your specialist. Also, as I understand that everyone does not feel comfortable posting questions you may privately email me your questions at:
[email protected]
I will do my best to answer within 72hours.
Lastly I want to address an issue
Some former members promoted as conspiracy theories surrounding my motivation to provide professional support. You are welcome to check my academic credentials, cancer center directorships,clinical reviews and research on nutritional contributions to tumor metastasis. It's all there in the open. I have been practicing pancreatic and Hepatobiliary surgical oncology for over 30, very fortunate and productive, years. I have performed several thousand of these operations(eg,Whipple, DP, IRE, Cryo, RFA, HAIP, Liv Rsx, HIPEC....) and like so many other surgeons who do large volumes of HPB surgery, I saw unexpected recurrence despite throwing everything we had at it. It is incredibly discouraging to travel with the patient on their journey optimistically expecting a Whipple success only to find a recurrence a year or two later. However, it became clear very early that Nanoknife offered the first real new opportunity to perform a less debilitating procedure than Pancreatic resection and provide a possibility for improved survival. If you read through many of the posts on this site you will see there are survivors who started with stage 3 disease going back 10yesrs that are very much alive today and often chime in. Multiple reports confirm this; yet oncologists unaware of its existence continue to deny its value. And patients get caught in the crossfire. But remember it is Not a guarantee, but an opportunity. There are so many variables at interplay even when the disease appears limited. So the nanoknife has become the keystone for what I have defined as a new pancreatic cancer treatment paradigm; one which incorporates a multimodality approach to treat the real pancreatic cancer stage which I feel is always at least 1 stage greater than what we can identify during initial workup and imaging. So whereas the medical oncologist who concentrates on drug therapy, we have long known that drug resistance limits its success and therefore, one must take into consideration equally effective cytotoxic treatments (eg, ablation, Y90,etc) which have all been shown to be important, and are under- used. So nothing you see in the New Paradigm will be "Sorcery or snake oil" as some may suggest. They are all approved strategies and we have 5,6,7 years and longer advanced stage 3 and 4 survivors; and one was featured on ABC News at his 5 year anniversary. And yet in similar fashion these combinations will not be beneficial to every individual. So many factors are at play such as sites of metastasis and Nutritional status which directly impacts Immune competence; and is very important in impacting every part of cancer therapy. Data not desperation needs to be your guide. But the data must always include yours in that decision not just the collection of 99 others from a hopeful "mouse trial." The key take away is that in Pancreatic Cancer we have only marginally moved the "survival needle" by 3-4% in over 80years since Alan Oldfield Whipple described his operation. 9-10% of the current 60,000 new cases will survive 5 years. But only 50% of those reach the 10 year mark. So if the Whipple "cure rate" for stage 1 and 2 is less than 10% it would not be surprising that the nanoknife which is used for more advanced stage disease would have worse survival figures? But that not necessarily true because survival in pancreatic cancer is largely a function of liver involvement; and all those stage 1 and 2 Whipple resections fail because of occult metastatic disease. So the overall survival is a function of many factors. The role of the nanoknife is to destroy the tumor and prevent further metastases. If that happens to occur when the occult liver disease is less, the individual lives longer and can seek additional therapies as gauged by the tumor burden, site, size and location. So when someone says I was "guaranteed" to live two years or more you know they missed the beginning of the sentence that starts...."can possibly all other factors being equal." Unfortunately, despite our technology we are still limited by the inability to reproduceably detect micrometastatic disease. The mission behind Circulating Tumor Cells hopefully will change much of that. So up against those numbers and the realization that your personal cure rate is either 0% or 100% we have come to recognize that the nanoknife has breathed new life into this area and especially when used as an adjunct with the newer immunotherapy and Natural Killer Cell treatments has tremendous "potential" to improve survival and quality of life. The future is limited only by the imagination. We have an obligation to reduce suffering and as death is for a very long time, we owe it to ourselves to cheat it any way we can. So in Pancreatic Cancer we must always remember the best treatments from the past and continue to improve upon them but also strive to think outside the box and integrate promising new therapies.
Lastly, we (my wife and myself) recently established a Pancreatic Cancer Foundation which is aimed at funding both basic and clinical research to focus on areas that continue to move the needle in clinical areas that affect patients. It's fledgling but already the grants to pursue these areas are emerging and I will keep you all abreast of its progress.
For as much as we build better by standing on the shoulder of giants(Isaac Newton), we must always remember Einstein's definition of Insanity.
Three of my favorite Einstein quotes as they guide my perspective of the future of individualized Cancer treatment. I used to drive by his home in Princeton every Saturday on the way to the Princeton Bookstore. You would never believe the simplicity that surrounded him. A lesson.