08/26/2026
What if the same qualities that help you succeed—discipline, routine, and perfectionism—start working against you?
On this episode of The Hanley Effect, Dr. Cali Werner from the OCD Institute of Texas joins John Dyben and Rachel Docekal for a powerful conversation about OCD, anxiety, perfectionism, and mental health in athletes.
An accomplished distance runner who competed in the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, Dr. Werner also knows OCD personally. She shares how the pressure she placed on herself as an athlete intensified her symptoms—and how evidence-based treatment ultimately changed her life and career.
Today, Dr. Werner helps others navigate OCD and anxiety as a behavior therapist at the OCD Institute of Texas and through Athlete Rising, her practice focused on athletes.
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